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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:30 am
by hocus2004
Could you provide a link to the analysis?

Here is a link to the thread in question. The raddr post is the second post in the thread.

http://www.nofeeboards.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1176

raddr: "In fact, looking back at my Gordon equation thread, a 7% real return going forward would be about 3 SD's above the mean for 40-60 years going forward - using overlapped data."

Please take note the language at the bottom of this post indicating that it was: "

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:42 am
by karma
For any latercomers to this thread - it has basically been destroyed by inappropriate posting. I have started another on the same topic titled

FIRE - How to spend your time, part 2
Please continue there.

karma

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:46 am
by ElSupremo
Greetings karma :)

Here is a link to the new thread:

http://www.nofeeboards.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=3357

Good job on this one karma. It might be a good idea for anyone who has a thread run way off topic to just start a new one. I'll do that myself from now on. :idea:

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:10 am
by hocus2004
It might be a good idea for anyone who has a thread run way off topic to just start a new one. I'll do that myself from now on.

I agree that Karma came up with a most constructive way to deal with the matter of the thread she started taking off in a direction other than the one she had initially intended. We all have had threads we started take off in unexpected directions. People post about what they are interested in and there is no way for the originator of a thread to control the process.

But there is also nothing that says that the originator of the thread cannot put up a new thread and see if that one proceeds in a different way. It makes perfect sense to give a suggested topic a second chance at generating some relevant responses.

Karma has put up a number of good thread-starters in recent weeks. I have offered several responses in them relevant to the topic raised in the initial post. But there have also been occasions (such as with this thread) where community members had questions or comments on other topics that called for responses from me. In those cases I have tried to provide helpful responses to those questions or comments. I obviously have no desire to frustrate Karma's desire to hear responses relevant to her original topic ideas, and I am glad that she has come up with an appropriate way to see if she can get come community input on the original topic.

This solution is the sort of thing that we can come up with when we are working together as a community. It is the product of the sort of constructive spirit that we need to see in evidence in our handling of all of the various procedural issues that pop up from time to time when people congregate to make use of this exciting new communications medium.

Thanks for coming up with a good way of handling things, Karma. And thanks for lending your endorsement to this most constructive approach, ES.

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:18 am
by Oliver
karma wrote: For any latercomers to this thread - it has basically been destroyed by inappropriate posting. I have started another on the same topic titled

FIRE - How to spend your time, part 2
Please continue there.

karma


Thanks for starting the new thread.

Oliver

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:52 am
by hocus2004
Thanks for starting the new thread.

It would have been nice if you would have added: "And thanks for providing a prompt response to my question, hocus."

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:58 am
by karma
:oops:Thanks for putting in the URL, ES. You'd think in umpteen years on message boards I would have thought of that. And none too soon! Looks like more rot has appeared.

karma

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:27 am
by hocus2004
Looks like more rot has appeared.

What are you referring to, Karma? Are you saying that Oliver posted "rot" by asking me a question or are you saying that I posted "rot" by responding to the question asked of me?

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:32 am
by karma
:!:

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:52 am
by hocus2004
I don't know what that last post of yours says, Karma. I see an exclamation point and that's all. This may be one of those things where I can't see some sort of graphic on my machine.

I'll tell you what I think is going on here. I think you have some good ideas for FIRE topics that we all could talk about. I think there is universal interest in hearing about them. I think you are allowing yourself to get sidetracked with the intercst thing, and I think you should make an effort not to continue to let that happen. It serves no good purpose.

You don't like things that I post about intercst (and perhaps raddr too). I get that. The things that I post are board business. I have not only a right but also an obligation to post them. I make my living informing people about what they need to do to win financial freedom early in life and intercst has posted false stuff that is very dangerous and I have an obligation to correct the record for people.

I don't ever do that in inappropriate ways. My initial reference to intercst on this thread was entirely approrpiate. He is an outspoken proponent of the view that anyone who does anything in retirement other than watch television is not really "retired." I think that is nonsense. I doubt that there is anyone else on Planet Earth who takes that viewpoint. But that is what the guy says. He has attacked not only me for doing things other than watching television, he has attacked others for this too. So I have both a right and an obligation to note to aspiring early retirees that I think that this guy is off his rocker on this question. I did that in a throwway line. That was enough to take care of that aspect of it, in my view.

You turned it into a big deal. You came back with this idea that no one should ever mention the name "intercst" anywhere except on the SWR board. That is no not reasonable. Intercst has a web site on the topic of early retirement. People are going to talk about what he has to say on Retire Early boards. It is not reasonable to think that you can persuade the entire world never again to refer to intercst except on the SWR board.

It was your over-reaction that caused this thread to get off the topic that was referenced in the thread-started. I responded to your request that intercst not be mentioned anywhere but on the SWR board and that raised some questions in Petey's mind, and I responded to them, and one of those responses raised a question in Oliver's mind and I responded to that. That is how it works on a discussion board. People discuss what they want to discuss.

You came up with a good idea of starting a new thread with "Part Two" in the title. Why don't you just go with that? Put your energies into the things you want to talk about. If you don't want to talk about intercst, you don't have to. But I think you are spinning your wheels trying to get people like Petey and Oliver not to ask questions that they are interested in knowing the answers to, and I also think you are spinning your wheels trying to discourage me from providing answers to their questions.

If there are further questions of me about things that have come up on this thread, I will do my level best to provide good answers to them. If not, I have other things I would like to be attending to. Is that OK with everybody?

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:57 am
by ElSupremo
Greetings karma :)
You'd think in umpteen years on message boards I would have thought of that.

Oh you know those url's and images can be pretty tricky. :lol: Don't worry about it. :wink: